Friday, March 17, 2006

Onenness Pentacostal Cult ?

please don't mistake me, i am not oneness pentacostal or
considering to join one .. no i am not. i am clear with my ideology on
trinity and baptism. but very often this cult mess around with
Christians nowday all over the world with their new found logic on
trinity or more to be said as unitary.


Do Oneness pentacostal believe in Trinity?


answer : yes, but not the version of trinity that is introduce by
tertulian in the council of nicea when endorsing nicene creed.


They believe, Jesus( Jehovah Shua) who was the Father in the old
testament, appear as perfect Human being in the new testament and
appear again with disciple on the day of the pentecost in the form of
the Spirit whch we identify as the Holy Spirit. to them is one and the
same person when it is nothing wrong to call the Holy Spirit or the
father, and the Son to be Jesus ( Jehovah Shua =God is my salvation)


what i don't agree: They believe Jesus was never a man in the old
testament, means only in the new testament he took the form of a man.
i disagree: 1. We are Created in God's own image ( genesis 1:26)
means there is form of man image in God.. which i believe is Christ
Jesus.
2. The person that Appears to Enoch Abaraham, and
other prohphets personally.. does have an image of a man, because God
walk with them.
3. Moses on the Cleft of the Rocks, when the Glory
of the LORD just pass him.
4. the fourth person in the fire with shadrach,
meshach and abednego.


and the list just go on and on ...


Why i say the form of the man in the OLD testament to be Christ, this
is a bit bias because the scripture i quote is from the new testament
:D
1 timothy 2:5 :
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men,
the man Christ Jesus;


now the question is ? is the mediator God ? Yes ..
is he man ? the verse clearly state there MAN CHRIST JESUS.


certainly: some more we bear the image of Christ in us .. the Human
image was given by Christ in the creation itself. undenyable.


now Father, Son and the Holy Spirit, are they DISTINCT person ? or
one and the same ?


deuteronomy 6:4 in hebrew:
Shema yisrael, Adonai elahihu adonai yechad. ( remember not
Yacheed)
Yechad = similiar one cluster of grapes, whereas yacheed is number 1.


Disctinct ? you should know by now. everytime when they quote English
bible where God is mention to be one, bring them back to hebrew it's
Yechad not Yacheed.


My understanding of the trinity :


God is one and the same person who played Disctinctive ROLE in our
Salvation. on what we understand as Father, Son and the Holy Spirit.


Jesus is alone God, no one besides him, and when we get to heaven,
there is only going to be Jesus sitting on the Throne, as will lead by
Jesus to worship God.


1 corinthians 15:28 : And when all things shall be subdued unto him,
then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things
under him, that God may be all in all.


So that God will be All in All... He will be God and God that lead
to God and God that in the people. because God will be all in all. :)


anyway i am not that theologian to put everything into final theory.


i am open for people to comment ... please help me if i am wrong with
my trinity concept ?


please ...

2 Comments:

Blogger EJ said...

Oneness Pentecostals believe in the trinity as much as Mormons do. Translation: they don't. They use similar language in order to "blend" in or, in some cases, to deceive people into thinking that they are truly Christian. Hank Hanegraaff (Host of the Bible Answer Man radio program) says it really well in this way: God exists in 1 what and 3 who's. The "what" is God (Essence, nature, etc) and the "who" are the different individual persons that comprise the one God. I beg you to read my blog entry about this matter. This is a serious issue. Getting this wrong, we're not just wrong, but we'll end up not being saved because we didn't believe in Christ as He revealed Himself to us in Scripture.

7:50 AM  
Blogger DanPonjican said...

God is no more three persons than I am! I too am a son, I too have a spirit, and I too am a father. Does that make me three persons? Certainly not... just three roles in life. But ask me what me name is and I'll say Daniel, not son, or father or Mechanical Engineer.

As for OT manifestations of God... well God knew what His image would be in Jesus way before His flesh was born. Besides, how would you explain the physical appearance of the burning bush... the pillar of fire, or even the donkey? Remember, He is sovereign. He can manifest Himself anyway He prefers.

7:35 PM  

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